{"id":209,"date":"2021-12-31T11:47:41","date_gmt":"2021-12-31T10:47:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/antoineoury.wordpress.com\/?p=209"},"modified":"2021-12-31T11:47:41","modified_gmt":"2021-12-31T10:47:41","slug":"interview-jeff-mills-et-jacqueline-caux-dans-lair-du-futur","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/2021\/12\/31\/interview-jeff-mills-et-jacqueline-caux-dans-lair-du-futur\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview &#8211; Jeff Mills et Jacqueline Caux, dans l&rsquo;air du futur"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Un article publi\u00e9 en f\u00e9vrier 2014 dans <em>Coup d&rsquo;Oreille<\/em>, pour lequel je me souviens avoir fait preuve d&rsquo;une patience infinie avant de pouvoir interviewer Jeff Mills et Jacqueline Caux. Cela avait finalement pay\u00e9, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 Yoko Uozumi, manager du label Axis Records, qui avait fini par c\u00e9der\u2009! M\u00eame si cela s&rsquo;\u00e9tait fait par email, j&rsquo;\u00e9tais assez fier d&rsquo;avoir pu interroger Jeff Mills, l\u00e9gende de la techno, et Jacqueline Caux, dont j&rsquo;avais d\u00e9j\u00e0 crois\u00e9 la route lors d&rsquo;un festival de films exp\u00e9rimentaux \u00e0 Paris.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\" \/>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/antoinj.cluster021.hosting.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/man_from_tomorrow_jeff_mills_jacqueline_caux.jpeg?w=530\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-368\" width=\"685\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/man_from_tomorrow_jeff_mills_jacqueline_caux.jpeg 530w, https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/man_from_tomorrow_jeff_mills_jacqueline_caux-300x198.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 685px) 100vw, 685px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>D\u2019o\u00f9 vient la techno ? Selon les \u00e9coles, d\u2019Allemagne, de Detroit ou des rives de la Jama\u00efque. Mais tous les ama\u00adteurs s\u2019accordent sur une orig\u00adine : le futur. Plus de&nbsp;30&nbsp;ans apr\u00e8s le duo Cybotron (Juan Atkins et Richard Davis, pio\u00adnniers du genre), le film Man From Tomor\u00adrow de Jacque\u00adline Caux, r\u00e9al\u00adis\u00e9 en proche col\u00adlab\u00ado\u00adra\u00adtion avec Jeff Mills, rap\u00adpelle cette source anticip\u00e9e.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Les regards se tour\u00adnent vers l\u2019\u00e9cran comme ils le feraient pour scruter la voie lac\u00adt\u00e9e. Ce soir-\u200bl\u00e0, la sc\u00e8ne de l\u2019auditorium du Lou\u00advre est gar\u00adnie de baf\u00adfles, comme pour un con\u00adcert. Les ama\u00adteurs de cin\u00e9ma exp\u00e9ri\u00admen\u00adtal, les fans de techno et autres jour\u00adnaleux se sont retrou\u00adv\u00e9s sous la Pyra\u00admide pour y trou\u00adver la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 sur Jeff Mills. Pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 comme un por\u00adtrait,&nbsp;<em>Man From Tomor\u00adrow<\/em>&nbsp;ne se soumet \u00e0 aucun canon, y pr\u00e9f\u00e9rant les com\u00adpo\u00adsi\u00adtions de Mills.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>D\u00e8s les pre\u00admi\u00e8res sec\u00adon\u00addes de pro\u00adjec\u00adtion, il devient \u00e9vi\u00addent que le film a \u00e9t\u00e9 pens\u00e9 \u00e0 deux, les cr\u00e9a\u00adtions indi\u00advidu\u00adelles s\u2019accompagnant dans une m\u00eame recherche, visuelle, audi\u00adtive, toutes deux sen\u00adsorielles. Le pre\u00admier mou\u00adve\u00adment (comme un op\u00e9ra, une sym\u00adphonie) scrute de mani\u00e8re \u00e9pilep\u00adtique, non ellip\u00adtique, sur une lumi\u00e8re stro\u00adbo\u00adscopique, la sil\u00adhou\u00adette et le vis\u00adage, \u00e9trange, de Jeff Mills. Sans la musique orig\u00adi\u00adnale du com\u00adpos\u00adi\u00adteur techno, m\u00eame cette pre\u00admi\u00e8re approche ne serait pas effective.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rapi\u00adde\u00adment,&nbsp;<em>Man From Tomor\u00adrow<\/em>&nbsp;s\u2019\u00e9carte de l\u2019hypoth\u00e8se biographique : il sera ques\u00adtion de Jeff Mills, mais les r\u00e9ponses, s\u2019il en est, vien\u00addront d\u2019ailleurs. De con\u00adcep\u00adtions par\u00adti\u00adc\u00aduli\u00e8res de l\u2019espace et de l\u2019avenir, par exem\u00adple, vu sans crainte de la tech\u00adnolo\u00adgie. Dans le milieu de la musique techno, comme ailleurs, il a fallu essuyer les r\u00e9ac\u00adtions hos\u00adtiles \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9lectronique, vue comme la d\u00e9perdi\u00adtion d\u2019un \u00ab car\u00adac\u00adt\u00e8re humain \u00bb, d\u2019une \u00ab \u00e2me humaine \u00bb et autres foutaises g\u00e9n\u00e9tico-\u200b\u00e9sot\u00e9riques. L\u2019homme de demain n\u2019a pas peur d\u2019avancer, y com\u00adpris avec l\u2019outil tech\u00adnologique qu\u2019il a su ma\u00eetriser (ce plan, lib\u00e9ra\u00adteur, o\u00f9 la main d\u00e9m\u00eale le c\u00e2ble de la f\u00e9e \u00e9lectricit\u00e9).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/antoinj.cluster021.hosting.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/jacqueline_caux_jeff_mills.jpeg?w=500\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-369\" width=\"685\" height=\"456\" srcset=\"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/jacqueline_caux_jeff_mills.jpeg 500w, https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/jacqueline_caux_jeff_mills-300x200.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 685px) 100vw, 685px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Et ce ne sont peut-\u200b\u00eatre pas les out\u00adils qui sont lim\u00adit\u00e9s, mais la fa\u00e7on dont nous nous en ser\u00advons : \u00ab<em>&nbsp;Le prob\u00adl\u00e8me avec la musique, c\u2019est que nous sommes per\u00adsuad\u00e9 de ce qu\u2019elle doit \u00eatre<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, souligne en sub\u00adstance la voix&nbsp;<em>off<\/em>&nbsp;de Jeff Mills. Une lim\u00adi\u00adta\u00adtion comme une autre, qui ferme la voie \u00e0 une nou\u00advelle cr\u00e9a\u00adtiv\u00adit\u00e9. Il en va de m\u00eame du cin\u00e9ma (et, plus large\u00adment, de toutes les activ\u00adit\u00e9s huaines), et du statut que nous accor\u00addons \u00e0 ce que doit \u00eatre une \u00ab image \u00bb de cin\u00e9ma. Ainsi,&nbsp;<em>Man From Tomor\u00adrow<\/em>&nbsp;sem\u00adble un peu s\u2019\u00e9garer dans les images assez com\u00admunes d\u2019un asservisse\u00adment de l\u2019homme, film\u00e9es \u00e0 la Cit\u00e9 de la Musique, mais retrouve sa clart\u00e9 du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de l\u2019exp\u00e9rimental. En manip\u00adu\u00adlant la lumi\u00e8re comme Mills ordonne les sons, Jacque\u00adline Caux fait appa\u00adra\u00eetre des plans bien plus \u00e9vo\u00adca\u00adteurs, et en m\u00eame temps totale\u00adment ouverts \u00e0 la per\u00adcep\u00adtion indi\u00advidu\u00adelle de cha\u00adcun. Car, que voit-\u200bon, sur cette derni\u00e8re image, lim\u00adit\u00e9e \u00e0 une bande de flashs blancs, sur le c\u00f4t\u00e9 gauche de l\u2019\u00e9cran ? Cer\u00adtains diront les pis\u00adtons des usines de Detroit : nous y avons vu le trac\u00e9 d\u2019une route vers l\u2019avenir, emprun\u00adt\u00e9e par un art qui a encore suff\u00adisam\u00adment d\u2019essence pour y arriver.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Suite \u00e0 la pro\u00adjec\u00adtion, nous avons pu ren\u00adcon\u00adtrer Jeff Mills pour lui poser quelques ques\u00adtions sur&nbsp;<em>Man From Tomor\u00adrow<\/em>&nbsp;(<strong>full inter\u00adview in eng\u00adlish at the end of the arti\u00adcle<\/strong>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vous avez com\u00adpos\u00e9 de nou\u00advelles bande orig\u00adi\u00adnales de films pour Metrop\u00ado\u00adlis ou Les Trois \u00c2ges, com\u00adment avez-\u200bvous abord\u00e9 ces compositions ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :<\/strong>&nbsp;Il s\u2019av\u00e8re utile de con\u00adna\u00eetre l\u2019histoire du film, et la r\u00e9ac\u00adtion des pre\u00admiers spec\u00adta\u00adteurs. M\u00eame la con\u00adnais\u00adsance de l\u2019\u00e9poque est utile, parce elle ren\u00adseigne sur la rai\u00adson pour laque\u00adlle un tel film a \u00e9t\u00e9 tourn\u00e9 et pro\u00adjet\u00e9. Apr\u00e8s ces recherches, je com\u00admence la pro\u00adduc\u00adtion en regar\u00addant et en m\u00e9morisant le film, avant de le d\u00e9couper en plusieurs par\u00adties. Ensuite, je com\u00admence \u00e0 com\u00adposer des \u00e9bauches de musique pour chaque sec\u00adtion. Une fois cette \u00e9tape ter\u00admin\u00e9e, je syn\u00adchro\u00adnise la musique aux sec\u00adtions pour voir si celle-\u200bci est con\u00adforme aux \u00e9mo\u00adtions de la sc\u00e8ne. Si ce n\u2019est pas le cas, je com\u00adpose \u00e0 nou\u00adveau. Quand la musique est con\u00adforme, je com\u00admence \u00e0 la mod\u00adi\u00adfier l\u00e9g\u00e8re\u00adment pour qu\u2019elle colle aux mou\u00adve\u00adments des acteurs et au d\u00e9roul\u00e9 de la sc\u00e8ne. Finale\u00adment, je con\u00adnecte les seg\u00adments et j\u2019ajoute si besoin quelques tran\u00adsi\u00adtions, avant un over\u00addub pour ren\u00addre la bande orig\u00adi\u00adnale plus coh\u00e9rente. Quand j\u2019interpr\u00e8te ces ban\u00addes orig\u00adi\u00adnales en live, j\u2019apporte toutes les pistes s\u00e9pare\u00adment, et je les pro\u00adgramme en live avec le film. Pas avec un ordi\u00adna\u00adteur, \u00e0 mains nues. C\u2019est pourquoi la m\u00e9mori\u00adsa\u00adtion du film est importante.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/antoinj.cluster021.hosting.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/jeff_mills.jpeg?w=333\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-371\" width=\"467\" height=\"701\" srcset=\"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/jeff_mills.jpeg 333w, https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/jeff_mills-200x300.jpeg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 467px) 100vw, 467px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Bien que le film soit tr\u00e8s exp\u00e9ri\u00admen\u00adtal, il est cen\u00adtr\u00e9 sur vous : avez-\u200bvous com\u00adpos\u00e9 la bande orig\u00adi\u00adnale comme un enreg\u00adistrement autobiographique ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>Bien avant que nous ne com\u00admen\u00adcions le tour\u00adnage, nous [Jeff Mills et Jacque\u00adline Caux, NdR] avons longue\u00adment dis\u00adcut\u00e9 musique \u00e9lec\u00adtron\u00adique, ma car\u00adri\u00e8re, mes con\u00advic\u00adtions et d\u2019autres sujets. L\u2019intention a \u00e9t\u00e9 fa\u00e7on\u00adn\u00e9e en duo, et valid\u00e9e dans la m\u00eame per\u00adspec\u00adtive. Celle-\u200bci devait traduire ce que je ressen\u00adtais avec la musique techno, ma m\u00e9th\u00adode de pro\u00adduc\u00adtion, ce en quoi je crois, la fa\u00e7on dont je vois le monde\u2026 En tant que por\u00adtrait, il \u00e9tait impor\u00adtant pour le film de com\u00adpren\u00addre pourquoi j\u2019avais choisi cette pro\u00adfes\u00adsion, cette exis\u00adtence. La plu\u00adpart des morceaux ont \u00e9t\u00e9 com\u00adpos\u00e9s en amont, mais pas enreg\u00adistr\u00e9s avant le film. Une fois les images tourn\u00e9es, Jacque\u00adline [Caux] m\u2019a envoy\u00e9 un sam\u00adple pr\u00e9\u00adpara\u00adtoire de chaque par\u00adtie du film. De ces courts moments d\u2019images, j\u2019ai tir\u00e9 une grande s\u00e9lec\u00adtion de morceaux, en expli\u00adquant quels titres seraient appro\u00adpri\u00e9s pour quelle par\u00adtie, en d\u00e9tail\u00adlant la sig\u00adni\u00adfi\u00adca\u00adtion de chaque&nbsp;<em>track<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>D\u2019ailleurs, la bande orig\u00adi\u00adnale sera-\u200bt-\u200belle disponible chez Axis Records ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>Nous allons laisser la bande orig\u00adi\u00adnale li\u00e9e au film. Par con\u00adtre, je pr\u00e9\u00adpare un album pour ce print\u00ademps ou cet \u00e9t\u00e9, dans le m\u00eame style, qui s\u2019appelera<em>&nbsp;The Won\u00adder Years<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J\u2019ai lu que&nbsp;2001, Odyss\u00e9e de l\u2019espace \u00e9tait une r\u00e9f\u00e9rence majeure pour vous, sp\u00e9\u00adciale\u00adment la bande orig\u00adi\u00adnale. Pour quelle rai\u00adson ? Pensez-\u200bvous que la bande orig\u00adi\u00adnale doive \u00ab coller \u00bb aux images du film ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>J\u2019admire beau\u00adcoup&nbsp;2001, mais ce n\u2019est pas la r\u00e9f\u00e9rence majeure. En fait, ce sont plut\u00f4t les \u00e9toiles, et ce que nous savons d\u2019elles [pour le moment] qui repr\u00e9sen\u00adtent pour moi la plus grande influ\u00adence et inspi\u00adra\u00adtion. Les \u00e9toiles, les plan\u00e8tes, et tout ce qu\u2019il y a entre elles et nous. Pour ce qui est de la bande orig\u00adi\u00adnale, je crois qu\u2019elle doit servir le film au mieux. Elle ne doit pas for\u00adc\u00e9\u00adment se syn\u00adchro\u00adniser aux mou\u00adve\u00adments, elle doit \u00eatre suff\u00adisam\u00adment pr\u00e9sente pour se fon\u00addre dans le sc\u00e9nario.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Avec quels instru\u00adments avez-\u200bvous com\u00adpos\u00e9 la bande originale ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>Sur dif\u00adf\u00e9rents syn\u00adth\u00e9s analogiques clas\u00adsiques. Sans s\u00e9quen\u00e7age infor\u00adma\u00adtique, ni aucun ordi\u00adna\u00adteur utilis\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Qui a \u00e9crit le texte lu dans le film ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>Cette nar\u00adra\u00adtion provient de dif\u00adf\u00e9rentes inter\u00adviews que nous avons faites en amont du film. Les extraits sonores vien\u00adnent de l\u00e0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Quand avez-\u200bvous ren\u00adcon\u00adtr\u00e9 Jeff Mills (j\u2019imagine, au cours du tour\u00adnage de votre doc\u00adu\u00admen\u00adtaire&nbsp;<em>Cycles of the Men\u00adtal Machine<\/em>, mais peut-\u200b\u00eatre plus t\u00f4t ?) Aviez-\u200bvous d\u00e9j\u00e0 col\u00adlabor\u00e9 avec des musi\u00adciens techno pour une bande originale ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :<\/strong>&nbsp;Je con\u00adnais la musique de Jeff depuis des d\u00e9cen\u00adnies, et je l\u2019avais rapi\u00adde\u00adment ren\u00adcon\u00adtr\u00e9 lors de con\u00adcerts parisiens. Puis, au moment du tour\u00adnage de mon film&nbsp;<em>Cycles of the Men\u00adtal Machine<\/em>, \u00e0 Detroit, j\u2019ai lou\u00e9 une voiture et suis par\u00adtie pour Chicago. L\u00e0, j\u2019ai pu le ren\u00adcon\u00adtrer plus longue\u00adment dans son bureau, chez Axis Records. Je l\u2019ai \u00e0 nou\u00adveau ren\u00adcon\u00adtr\u00e9 \u00e0 plusieurs reprises \u00e0 Paris, avant que nous ne com\u00admen\u00adcions notre film. Autant de moments et de con\u00adver\u00adsa\u00adtions n\u00e9ces\u00adsaires pour approcher de la meilleure mani\u00e8re pos\u00adsi\u00adble ses pr\u00e9oc\u00adcu\u00adpa\u00adtions per\u00adson\u00adnelles et musicales.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Quelle cam\u00e9ra avez-\u200bvous util\u00adis\u00e9 pour le film ? O\u00f9 celui-\u200bci a-\u200bt-\u200bil \u00e9t\u00e9 tourn\u00e9 ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :<\/strong>&nbsp;J\u2019ai util\u00adis\u00e9 deux cam\u00e9ras Canon&nbsp;5D. J\u2019ai tourn\u00e9 la pre\u00admi\u00e8re par\u00adtie dans un stu\u00addio sp\u00e9\u00adciale\u00adment pr\u00e9vu pour les images du film, et la sec\u00adonde \u00e0 La Cit\u00e9 de la Musique, dans l\u2019architecture cr\u00e9\u00e9e par Chris\u00adt\u00adian de Portzamparc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Avez-\u200bvous manip\u00adul\u00e9 la lumi\u00e8re d\u2019une fa\u00e7on sp\u00e9\u00adci\u00adfique\u00adment \u00abtechno\u00bb ? Dans le film, une cita\u00adtion de Jeff Mills explique que la musique est trop sou\u00advent lim\u00adit\u00e9e par l\u2019id\u00e9e que nous en avons, abordez-\u200bvous le cin\u00e9ma de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :<\/strong>&nbsp;Je n\u2019ai pas tra\u00advaill\u00e9 la lumi\u00e8re d\u2019une mani\u00e8re sp\u00e9\u00adciale\u00adment \u00abtechno\u00bb, comme on peut le voir \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cran. Beau\u00adcoup de r\u00e9al\u00adisa\u00adteurs l\u2019ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 fait\u2026 J\u2019ai juste voulu don\u00adner des sen\u00adsa\u00adtions avec la lumi\u00e8re, selon celles que la musique pro\u00addui\u00adsait en moi. D\u2019une mani\u00e8re abstraite, et non nar\u00adra\u00adtive. Et j\u2019ai film\u00e9 en silence, avec la musique de Jeff seule\u00adment dans ma t\u00eate. Ensuite, je lui ai envoy\u00e9 les rushs pour que Jeff me pro\u00adpose des musiques en retour, li\u00e9es aux images, en me lais\u00adsant le choix. Ensuite, j\u2019ai \u00e9dit\u00e9 les images, avec la musique choisie. C\u2019est le seul moment o\u00f9 les images et le rythmes doivent fonc\u00adtion\u00adner ensem\u00adble, ou \u00eatre dis\u00adtincts pour \u00e9viter une redon\u00addance. Par\u00adfois, \u00eatre en oppo\u00adsi\u00adtion avec la musique est aussi tr\u00e8s int\u00e9res\u00adsant. Tra\u00advailler sur des contrastes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Man From Tomor\u00adrow<\/em>&nbsp;doit \u00eatre vu dans de par\u00adfaites con\u00addi\u00adtions sonores : quelle est la meilleure configuration ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :<\/strong>&nbsp;Le plus impor\u00adtant est d\u2019avoir un tr\u00e8s bon pro\u00adjecteur \u2014 dans le cas con\u00adtraire, ce serait comme exposer une toile en dilu\u00adant les couleurs avec une \u00e9ponge \u2014 et \u00e9videm\u00adment un bon&nbsp;<em>soundsys\u00adtem<\/em>. Il est pri\u00admor\u00addial d\u2019offrir aux spec\u00adta\u00adteurs une entr\u00e9e dans un monde de sen\u00adsa\u00adtions, comme un bain sonore\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Merci \u00e0 Jacque\u00adline Caux, Jeff Mills et Yoko Uozumi (Axis Records)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Jeff Mills 100% Vinyl Purpose Maker Mix (Full Videoset) Live\" width=\"660\" height=\"495\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7epd24vIk0Y?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You worked on new ver\u00adsions of sound\u00adtracks for movies such as Metrop\u00ado\u00adlis and Three Ages, how do you han\u00addle the com\u00adpo\u00adsi\u00adtion of an orig\u00adi\u00adnal sound\u00adtrack ? How do you com\u00adpose the sound\u00adtrack ? While watch\u00ading the images ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>It helps to learn about the his\u00adtory of the film and the reac\u00adtion of the first audi\u00adences. Even the era is rel\u00ade\u00advant, because it pro\u00advides an impres\u00adsion on why such a film was made and released. After that, I start the pro\u00adduc\u00adtion by watch\u00ading and mem\u00ado\u00adriz\u00ading the film. I then, sec\u00adtion off the film into seg\u00adments. Next, I start com\u00adpos\u00ading music sketches for each sec\u00adtion. Once these are done, I begin to match the music to the sec\u00adtion to see if the feel\u00ading of the scene is reflected in the music. If not, I\u2019ll com\u00adpose more. If so, I\u2019ll being to mod\u00adify the music to fit per\u00adfectly into the move\u00adment of the actors and the motion of the scene. Con\u00adnect all the seg\u00adments to together and maybe add a few small tran\u00adsi\u00adtional parts and over\u00addub\u00adbing to make the flow of the sound\u00adtrack con\u00adsis\u00adtent through\u00adout and its prac\u00adti\u00adcally ready. When per\u00adform\u00ading the sound\u00adtrack live, I\u2019ll bring all the sep\u00ada\u00adrate tracks and pro\u00adgram them in real time and in sync with the film. Not by com\u00adputer, but by hand. This is why I must mem\u00ado\u00adrize the film.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Although the movie is very exper\u00adi\u00admen\u00adtal, it is focused on you : do you com\u00adpose the orig\u00adi\u00adnal sound\u00adtrack as an auto\u00adbi\u00ado\u00adgraph\u00adi\u00adcal release ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>Long before we started film\u00ading, we spent many hours talk\u00ading about Elec\u00adtronic Music, my career, belief sys\u00adtem and many other top\u00adics. The intent was jointly under\u00adstand and agree on a per\u00adspec\u00adtive. One that trans\u00adlated how I felt about Techno Music, the meth\u00adods I choose to pro\u00adduce, what I believe, how I see the World, etc. As a por\u00adtrait, it was cru\u00adcial to under\u00adstand why I\u2019ve cho\u00adsen this pro\u00adfes\u00adsion and life. Most of the com\u00adpo\u00adsi\u00adtions were already com\u00adposed, but not released before the film was made. After film\u00ading, Jacque\u00adline [Caux] sent a sam\u00adple batch of each of the seg\u00adments of the film. From those small sam\u00adple of frames, I for\u00adwarded a large col\u00adlec\u00adtion of music and sug\u00adgested which track should go where and with what \u2014 explain\u00ading the mean\u00ading of each track.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/antoinj.cluster021.hosting.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/caux_mills_entretien.jpeg?w=500\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-373\" width=\"683\" height=\"455\" srcset=\"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/caux_mills_entretien.jpeg 500w, https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/caux_mills_entretien-300x200.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>By the way, will the sound\u00adtrack be avail\u00adable at Axis Records ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>We\u2019ll leave the sound\u00adtrack con\u00adnected to the film. Though I\u2019m prepar\u00ading a release for this spring\/\u200bsummer that is sim\u00adi\u00adlar in style enti\u00adtled \u00abThe Won\u00adder Years\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I\u2019ve read that&nbsp;<em>2001, A Space Odyssey<\/em>&nbsp;is a main ref\u00ader\u00adence for you, espe\u00adcially the sound\u00adtrack. Why ? Do you think sound\u00adtrack have to closely stick to the images of a movie ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>I admire the film&nbsp;2001: A Space Odyssey greatly, but its not the main ref\u00ader\u00adence. Actu\u00adally, its the Stars and what we know of them [so far] that is the great\u00adest influ\u00adence and inspi\u00adra\u00adtion. Stars, plan\u00adets and all that in between. I think the sound\u00adtrack should serve the film well. It doesn\u2019t need to stick to every move\u00adment, but it should be only present enough so that it pos\u00adsi\u00adbly dis\u00adap\u00adpears into the storyline.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>On which instru\u00adments have you com\u00adposed the sound\u00adtrack for&nbsp;<em>Man From Tomor\u00adrow<\/em>&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>Var\u00adi\u00adous clas\u00adsic ana\u00adlogue synths. No com\u00adputer sequenc\u00ading or lap\u00adtop is ever used to com\u00adpose the music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Who wrote the text read dur\u00ading the movie ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jeff Mills :&nbsp;<\/strong>The nar\u00adra\u00adtion is from many inter\u00adviews that were con\u00adducted through\u00adout the film\u00ading. Extracts were taken from those interviews.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>When did you meet Jeff Mills (I guess for your doc\u00adu\u00admen\u00adtary&nbsp;<em>The Cycles of The Men\u00adtal Machine<\/em>, maybe before ?). Have you ever worked with techno artists (for a soundtrack) ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :<\/strong>&nbsp;I know Jeff\u2019s Music from decades, and I prob\u00ada\u00adbly meet him breefly in some con\u00adcerts in Paris. Then, when I went to Detroit for film\u00ading my movie \u00abThe Cycles of the Men\u00adtal Machine\u00bb, I rent a car and went to Chicago where I meet him more longer and talk with him in his Axis office. Then we meet sev\u00aderal times in Paris before start\u00ading our movie. Nec\u00ades\u00adsary times and con\u00adver\u00adsa\u00adtions to bet\u00adter approach his per\u00adsonal and musi\u00adcal preoccupations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Cycles of the Mental Machine Movie Trailer\" width=\"660\" height=\"495\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/SYvp2fmJ8O8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Which type of cam\u00adera do you use for film\u00ading ? Where was the movie shot ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :&nbsp;<\/strong>I use two Canon D&nbsp;5. I had filmed the movie for the first part in a spe\u00adcial stu\u00addio for pic\u00adtures mode, and the sec\u00adond part at La Cit\u00e9 de la Musique, from Chris\u00adt\u00adian de Portzam\u00adparc architect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Do you work on light\u00adning in a spe\u00adcial \u00abtechno\u00bb way for the movie ? I mean, there is a quote dur\u00ading the movie about how we con\u00adsider music, and how we think it should sound like, do you have the same point of view about cin\u00adema and images (a com\u00admon idea wants that \u00abtrue cin\u00adema images\u00bb aren\u2019t blurred, tell a story, fol\u00adlow a char\u00adac\u00adter, and so on\u2026) ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :&nbsp;<\/strong>I did not work at all on light\u00adning in a spe\u00adcial \u00abtechno\u00bb way, you can see it\u2026 Too many peo\u00adple did that before me\u2026 I just wanted to try to give some lights sen\u00adsa\u00adtions related to my musi\u00adcal sen\u00adsa\u00adtions, but in an abstract way, not in a nar\u00adra\u00adtive way. And I had filmed in silence, Jeff music where only in my head. Then I send him some selected rushs and Jeff pro\u00adpose me a lot of musics related to these images, to me make a choice. Then I edited the images with these music. That\u2019s the moment when images and rythms need to work together or to be detached to not being redon\u00addant. Some\u00adtime being in oppo\u00adsi\u00adtion to the music is very inter\u00adest\u00ading too. It is always inter\u00adest\u00ading to work with contrasts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Man From Tomor\u00adrow<\/em>&nbsp;have to be viewed in ideal lis\u00adten\u00ading con\u00addi\u00adtions : which con\u00adfig\u00adu\u00adra\u00adtion is the best to see the movie ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jacque\u00adline Caux :&nbsp;<\/strong>The most impor\u00adtant is to have a real good pro\u00adjec\u00adtor \u2014 oth\u00ader\u00adwise it\u2019s like a painter you would with\u00addraw the color with a sponge before expos\u00ading his work \u2014 and also have a very good sound sys\u00adtem. It is nec\u00ades\u00adsary to be able to offer the audi\u00adence to enter a world of sen\u00adsa\u00adtions, like in a sound bath..<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Un article publi\u00e9 en f\u00e9vrier 2014 dans Coup d&rsquo;Oreille, pour lequel je me souviens avoir fait preuve d&rsquo;une patience infinie avant de pouvoir interviewer Jeff Mills et Jacqueline Caux. Cela avait finalement pay\u00e9, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 Yoko Uozumi, manager du label Axis Records, qui avait fini par c\u00e9der\u2009! M\u00eame si cela s&rsquo;\u00e9tait fait par email, j&rsquo;\u00e9tais &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/2021\/12\/31\/interview-jeff-mills-et-jacqueline-caux-dans-lair-du-futur\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture de <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Interview &#8211; Jeff Mills et Jacqueline Caux, dans l&rsquo;air du futur<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[85,115,117,120,142,156,229],"class_list":["post-209","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-coup-doreille","tag-entretien","tag-interview","tag-jacqueline-caux","tag-jeff-mills","tag-man-from-tomorrow","tag-mills","tag-techno"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/209","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=209"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/209\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=209"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=209"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antoineoury.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=209"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}